Myths and stereotypes about Roma people
The aim of this dialogue is to destroy some of the myths and stereotypes which have arisen in relation to the Roma minority. Many half-truths and myths survive in the way people regard the Roma, along with unnecessarily romantic defences instead of objective explanations, unjust accusations, and over-generalisations.
Roma: a member of the Roma ethnic group. The word ‘Roma’ is used in Czech and was taken from Romani. It corresponds to the designation of the Indian jati (caste) of Dom or Domba. Gadjo, non-Roma: a member of the majority. The word ‘gadjo’ comes from Slovakian Romani. Gypsy: a pejorative designation of a member of the Roma ethnic group. In several languages, it has not yet been replaced by the neutral self-designation ‘Roma’. Sub-ethnic group: a group of people which share a common origin, language and material and spiritual culture, which is part of a larger linguistic-cultural community.
Between Roma people and non-Roma, there is only very restricted or indeed no exchange of day-to-day life practices and procedures on the level of regular human and neighbourly relations. Neither group learns of the other’s life customs or, above all, of their differences. It is important to realise that nothing which is said of Roma people as a whole has to be the whole truth, and does not have to be completely applicable to individual Roma. This does not only relate to Roma, but every other human community and the attempts made to express their characteristics and differences. Roma are people like any other, with the same human life needs and wishes, with the same pleasures and problems. Historical destiny over which they had no influence simply led them along paths and exposed them to situations different than those which European nations experienced. It taught them to survive, to preserve the family at all costs, it taught them skills other than putting down roots in a place, and it taught them to be mistrustful of the outside world and its authorities. Support and security was to be found only in the social relations of the family. Some of these skills make it difficult for Roma people to establish a working relationship with the majority and its institutions these days. Many half-truths and myths, unnecessarily romantic vindications instead of objective explanations, unjust accusations, and over-generalisation remain in relation to the Roma people. They are gypsies The term ‘gypsy’ with a small ‘g’, which is used by non-Roma people, probably arose in the 11th century from the word ‘Athinganoi’, which was used in a Georgian text written in the Iberon Cloister on Mount Athos, in what was then Byzantium (A. Mann, 2001). From the term ‘Athinganoi’ arose, alongside expressions derived from the region of (Lesser) Egypt (such as Gypsy or Gitano), the most widespread appellation of the Roma used in many European languages. For instance, in Germany the Roma are called ‘Zigeuner’, in Hungarian ‘Cigány’, etc. (C. Nečas, 1993). When the Roma are called ‘gypsies’ by non-Roma people, most of them feel the negative connotations of this word, which evoke ideas of the qualities which are usually attributed to them. Moreover, this word has other meanings not relating to the ethnic group. The dictionary of literary Czech offers, for instance, ‘vagabond’, ‘adventurer’, ‘swindler’, ‘liar’ and ‘thief’. In Czech, the derived verb ‘cikánit’ literally means ‘to lie’. Sometimes it is the case that Roma, in personal contact with non-Roma, will offer the term ‘gypsy’ for use (I’m not a Roma, we’re ‘gypsies’), but clearly because they have the feeling that this is expected of them. It seems that they are attempting to encourage in their counterpart an atmosphere of security, friendship and understanding. The name ‘Roma’ was also unanimously recommended by international Roma organisations. On an international level, the name ‘Roma’ is beginning to be regarded as politically correct, even when it is used by politicians or other publicly-active personalities. They’re all the same A view of the Roma sub-ethnic group will not work, for instance, if consideration is given to a unit larger than that of former Czechoslovakia, because the roots of those who live in Bohemia and Moravia are in the territory of Slovakia. In the territory of former Czechoslovakia, there live several sub-ethnic groups of Roma which have cultural links not only to Hungary, but also to Poland and the Ukraine. The Slovak Roma are a far larger group. They come from the Slovak Roma colonies where they lived for centuries, only arriving in the Czech lands after 1945. On the other hand, Roma arrived in Slovakia from the Balkans, from regions where Serbo-Croatian was spoken. Not only many Serbian words but the frequent occurrence of the surnames Horváth (Hungarian: Chorvat) and Rácz (Hungarian: Serb) testify to this. Fifty years ago, it was still possible to hear from older Roma that they were Serbian. However, they did not remember Serbian history, and these historical attributes quickly got forgotten, being replaced by the more current “We are Slovak Roma” after the arrival of Slovak Roma in Bohemia after 1945. Another group comprises the Hungarian Roma, who come from Southern Slovakia. The third most populous Roma group are the Roma living in the Valasko region, with a very specific and well-preserved culture and language. These days, most of the Valasko Roma are reserved in their dealings with the outside world, and conservative when it comes to maintaining their customs and traditions. The Valasko Roma call the Slovak and Hungarian Roma ‘Rumongrels’. Originally, this simply meant ‘Roma Ungro’, or Hungarian Roma, and the appellation related only to settled Roma, mainly living in Northern Hungary and Southern Slovakia. The Valasko Roma differ from the Hungarian and Slovakian Roma most obviously in that until 1959, theirs was a nomadic lifestyle. ‘Valasko’ is derived from the territory with the political name of the historical country Wallachia, which is now part of modern Romania. The Roma migrated en masse from there after Roma serfdom was abolished in 1856. In the Czech Republic, there lives a small remainder of the original sub-ethnic Sinto groups (German Roma) and the so-called Bohemian and Moravian Roma. These groups comprised the pre-war Roma population in Bohemia and Moravia, and were characterised by a high level of integration into Czech society. All of these sub-ethnic groups of Roma, so typical for the Czech lands, were almost completely murdered during World War II. Over the hundreds of years that the Roma have moved away from life in their original countries, the traditional caste-based understanding of relationships within the community is still very strong. In regular contact with the Roma it is not very clear, but it is a relatively determining factor of internal ethnic coexistence. It is clear in a host of customs, values and orientations of the Roma. In their own understanding, the Roma are not divided only into kindred descent, which is comprised by individual sub-ethnic groups, but also into wuzho Roma and marimé. This distinction into the ritually clean (wuzho) and unclean (marimé) of the group runs across the Roma community. The basis for this caste or ritual distinction are the relations of the Roma lineages, customs relating to leisure or the rejection of certain foodstuffs, but also the communal professions of certain groups (M. Hübschmannová, 1993). Certain types of work are deemed unclean, such as the cleaning of cesspools or trades involving the processing of earth. Other professions enjoy a very high status amongst Slovak Roma, such as being a musician or a shopkeeper. However, we cannot speak for all of the Roma here, since this would lead to inadmissible generalisations and would exoticise the Roma. The rules of cleanliness are part of all world religions. They are enshrined within the most important works of Hinduism, the Veda, as well as in Buddhism, in the food code of the Koran, along with the Old and New Testaments. Cleanliness, in this respect, does not refer to the body. On the other hand, in relation to physical cleanliness it should be pointed out that the Roma pay meticulous attention to hygiene and to tidiness inside their homes. Many Roma who, through the influence of various circumstances, belong to the group of socially poor, often do not have the material conditions or sufficient financial resources to be able to regularly replenish their wardrobe and repair the household fittings. The worn clothes which you wash every day will not look like new, even though you want to look good. This is a situation which the Roma themselves are not happy with, and which they do not know how to resolve. They don’t know how to behave, they are noisy The communication style of the Roma, which is historically based, will not apply to everyone around us. We can see the differences between people for ourselves in everyday life. However, for the purpose of first approaching the subject, a generalising model is unavoidable. The Roma people have an amazingly developed sense for understanding a person based solely on appearance and intuition. They can asses the honesty of a person immediately, as well as other characteristics and properties from their body language, their eyes, expressions, the movement of their hands, legs, their gestures, etc. They feel pleasant and relaxed in the company of another person, or they perceive a threat, even when our words are assuring them of the opposite. It is as thought they read the stance of a person from the inside. Empathy also plays a huge role in the communication style of the Roma, who will very quickly put themselves in the feelings of the other person and can immediately feel what that person is experiencing. They thus attain very quickly the feelings of pleasure or anxiety, powerlessness and insecurity, which surround them. The Roma’s experience of the majority is that their members, on the contrary, do not know how to read the feelings of the other. They do not speak of their feelings, and do not want to communicate negative and hurtful feelings. An individual from the majority would themselves perceive that they were embarrassing themselves in front of other people. The atmosphere amongst Roma themselves is based on trust and does not underestimate strict self-control. Their spontaneous conduct can then provoke a feeling of threat which dominates other feelings. From their reactions, it seems that the Roma always take an extreme approach to all events taking place around them. For them, impulsiveness and immediate reactions are a natural part of life, and a daily phenomenon. A Roma sees it in their family, understands it well, and behaves this way themselves. If they did not know how to cry, shout or scold, they would not be able to show that the other person matters to them. Because for the majority this kind of emotional conduct is not common, they read it otherwise, amongst other things as a higher level of threat. They don’t want to be educated However, the significance of traditional education was gradually undermined. Changes in society offered a new value: education in a Czech school, the problem being that an institutional school was and is diametrically opposite to the kind of kindred community which used to provide Roma children both their basic education and their professional qualifications (c.f. M. Černá, 1998). Traditional basic education was aimed at the child acquiring respect, honour and courtesy – everything which contributes to the harmonic life of the family and the community. Basic education also included the art of wise and appropriate words. It was absolutely inadmissible that a young person use a swearword in front of their family or someone older than them. Of course, this feeling for words related to Roma words, and everyone knew how to very sensitively combine their idioms, phrases, and cultural formulae with various situations, knew which words were appropriate and which not so, when they were permitted to be used and when they were not. Girls also received an education. A girl was brought up from very young to successfully perform all the roles which a woman had to during the course of life. The values of the ideal woman comprised purity, fidelity, children, etc. Education in a Czech school, abstract information mediated by means of a foreign language, was a completely new historical experience, and it was absurd to expect that the entire ethnic community would adapt to it within one generation. Many Roma saw the period after 1989 as a chance for their own national revival. More and more Roma realise the value of education, and are trying to ensure that their children do better than they themselves had done.
Jan, 14 years old Pavel, 16 years old, tells a story This story is taken from the book: Giere Jacqueline, Köbler, Gottfried (2001). Konfrontation. Bausteine für die pädagogische Annäherung an Geschichte und Wirkung des Holocaust. Frankfurt am Main: Fritz Bauer Institut. p. 19-20.
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Kdo je Tony Gatlif (Who is Tony Gatlif) In: Romano džaniben 1-2/1998 Tony Gatlif hovoří o filmu Lačho drom (Tony Gatlif Speaks about the Film Lačho Drom) In: Romano džaniben 1-2/1998 Ryvolová, Karolína Johann Peter Preiss: Střet dvou kultur (The Clash of Two Cultures) In: Romano džaniben 3/1998 Hübschmannová, Milena MUDr. Ján Cibula In: Romano džaniben 3/1998 Denisa Demeová: Predstavujem si seba (Let’s Introduce Ourselves) In: Romano džaniben 4/1998 Jozef Pešta / Motospojka u hlavního štábu In: Romano džaniben 4/1998 Romský folklór je živý / Roma Folklore is Alive (Rozhovor s Idou Kelarovou / An Interview with Ida Kelarová) In: Romano džaniben 1-2/1999 Ján Berki: Život v černé a bile (Life in Black and White) In: Romano džaniben 1-2/1999 Dživav vaš o Roma / Žiju pro Romy / I Live for the Roma (Portrét Jana Horvátha) In: Romano džaniben 1-2/1999 Andrej Giňa In: Romano džaniben 3-4/1999 Holomek, Karel Moravský Cigán - Tomáš Holomek In: Romano džaniben 3-4/1999 Rozhovor M. Hübschmannové s JUDr. Tomášem Holomkem In: Romano džaniben 3-4/1999 Tera Fabiánová In: Romano džaniben 1-2/2000 Aby po člověku něco zůstalo / Let Something Remain of a Person (Rozhovor s romským sochařem Jaroslavem Cickem / An Interview with the Roma Sculptor Jaroslav Cicek) In: Romano džaniben 3/2000 Tera Fabiánová II In: Romano džaniben 3/2000 Hübschmannová, Milena Osmdesáté narozeniny Ilony Lackové: Uľiľom tel bachtaľi čercheň. Narodila jsem se pod šťastnou hvězdou. In: Romano džaniben 1-2/2001 Kramářová, Jana Duj trin lava pal o Gejzas - Pár slov o Gejzovi – A Few Words about Gejza In: Romano džaniben 1-2/2001 Hübschmannová, Milena Rozhovor s Ronaldem Lee (An Interview with Ronald Lee) In: Romano džaniben 1-2/2002 Weckmanová, Saga Rada Romky In: Romano džaniben jevend/2002 Lillqvist, Katarina Básník, malíř, nebo romský baron Prášil ? (Poet, Painter, or Roma Baron Prášil?) 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